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You are so right! They are making Poornima look really hopeless right now and earlier, she tried to commit suicide because she couldn't marry Milind. I don't like her character very much- she is just too weak and really has no respect for HERSELF. But at least Pooja isn't shown as being that hopeless. She did not get her love, but at least she isn't trying to kill herself.  Plus, Pooja has stood up against Maya Gujral instead of just listening to her trash talks.

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yeah , i agree sonynu
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I totally agree with u angel diya and others! This is why I prefer Jassi because she is prepared to stand on her own 2 feet. Besides when Poornima's father did not allow her to marry Milind, she was going to commit suicide but now shes agreed to marry another person! It doesnt make sense!
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u r right asdfghjkl. YMLH is just a copy of stupid Ekta Kapoor's serials. Angry
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Originally posted by Zahira

u r right asdfghjkl. YMLH is just a copy of stupid Ekta Kapoor's serials. Angry

YES...AND IT'S DAMN IRRITATING!

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yep, it is stupid! it had become totally ridiculous!Angry
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Lets look at it from Poornima's point of view:

She has no particular ambition in life.. her only aim has been to get married to a good guy and have lots of babies. When she met Milind, BOOM! That's exactly the kinda girl he wanted, so she dosn't look any further. What gives Pooja her confidence to speak up against a wrong? It's her certainty that she can stand on her own two feet one day, she has brains and a good education, she has fought for what she wants and she's getting it. What makes Poornima so submissive? Her utter lack of confidence in her own abilities. The middle-class society they live in is so repressive and regressive that except for Pooja who has learnt to think for herself, all the other females learn only to depend on elders/male head of the households for making their final decisions. She was old enough to sleep with Milind (guilty pleasure without responsibility) but not strong enough to bear the consequences, and can you blame her? Should she have stayed at her parents' place and made them hate her and her unborn child for bringing them 'shame'? If she left home, where would she go? No relatives would take her in. How can a pregnant woman take up a job, support herself, and have a baby so soon? Besides, she has never been career-oriented and would probably get a low-paying clerical job or something that wouldn't even meet their basic needs. She's no Sushmita Sen to be able to afford a child as a single parent. So what does she do? Since she can't die with Milind (God hasn't willed it) she falls back into the old habit of listening to her parents, believing what they say is right. We females might LIKE to think that we're emancipated and capable of running our own lives, but the reality in much of feudal India is very different! So lets not judge Poornima by OUR standards ... can't we just see her for who she is and let her beSmile


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Originally posted by queenbee

Lets look at it from Poornima's point of view:

She has no particular ambition in life.. her only aim has been to get married to a good guy and have lots of babies. When she met Milind, BOOM! That's exactly the kinda girl he wanted, so she dosn't look any further. What gives Pooja her confidence to speak up against a wrong? It's her certainty that she can stand on her own two feet one day, she has brains and a good education, she has fought for what she wants and she's getting it. What makes Poornima so submissive? Her utter lack of confidence in her own abilities. The middle-class society they live in is so repressive and regressive that except for Pooja who has learnt to think for herself, all the other females learn only to depend on elders/male head of the households for making their final decisions. She was old enough to sleep with Milind (guilty pleasure without responsibility) but not strong enough to bear the consequences, and can you blame her? Should she have stayed at her parents' place and made them hate her and her unborn child for bringing them 'shame'? If she left home, where would she go? No relatives would take her in. How can a pregnant woman take up a job, support herself, and have a baby so soon? Besides, she has never been career-oriented and would probably get a low-paying clerical job or something that wouldn't even meet their basic needs. She's no Sushmita Sen to be able to afford a child as a single parent. So what does she do? Since she can't die with Milind (God hasn't willed it) she falls back into the old habit of listening to her parents, believing what they say is right. We females might LIKE to think that we're emancipated and capable of running our own lives, but the reality in much of feudal India is very different! So lets not judge Poornima by OUR standards ... can't we just see her for who she is and let her beSmile

I agree that Poornima has no ambition in life. Also agree that Pooja has the CAPABILITY to stand on her own two feet someday if she gets her brains back which she hasn't at this time. What I don't get what you mean by 'lets no judge Poornima by our standards?' Whose standards should we judge her by- I think many viewers of the show, esp female ones will agree that she is shown as a hopeless character. There are no two ways around that and how can we see things from her point of view when its clear that she lacks a personality and character of her own- we know her as Rasik and Sudha's daughter, Pooja's sister, Milind's girlfriend, Ronit's wife. We don't know what she thinks or feels so how can see from her point of view. I did feel sorry for her after Milind's death and even when she married Ronit right on the spot. But the fact that she does not even realize that Ronit and Pooja are in love is hard to digest. And its sad sometimes to see characters such as Poornima on-screen even if they reflect reality. Bottomline is this show is about Pooja and  her unwillingness to bow down to standards of what others say and expect of her. Now with the focus on Poornima, the show is giving out the wrong messages. Why shouldn't Poornima face the consquences of her actions- she really did get the easy way out with Ronit marrying her. In real life, someone like her would have had to probably deal with the shame and stigma, without family or friends support. So where is the message here? I feel like she lucked out because she got someone to care for her and basically give her a decent life.

 

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