chal_phek_mat
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Talking about our responsibility, One of the edit columns in a Indian Newspapers had this interesting point
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Talking about our responsibility, One of the edit columns in a Indian Newspapers had this interesting point
AND yes it can be done, and all together we can do
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it is Caring about.... Our Mother India
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The Bureacratics and their failures, some wanted written authorization to send their commando's, some claimed they did not have training so just kept firing aimlessly, some just flat out lied about information
NEW DELHI: Bureaucratic wrangles and red tape gave the Mumbai attackers a lead time of more than six hours to wreak havoc in the two besieged hotels of Taj and Oberoi Trident on November 26.
Piecing together the events of that fateful night, the story that emerges is one of chaos and confusion, of a government without a clear command and control system to deal with terrorist attacks, of bureaucratic delays of the worst kind.
Was anyone in charge that night? The answer is no.
According to reports available with the central government, the counter-terrorism operation ran into bureaucratic walls even as it became apparent that the attack was an extraordinary one. The navy wanted a written request for help. The National Security Guard in Delhi wasted time waiting for a transport plane that came from Chandigarh when the government could have commandeered any commercial aircraft in Delhi.
A highly placed source in the government estimated that there was a six-hour delay in starting the commando action. This pushed up the toll considerably.
A senior Maharashtra government officer said what hampered them the most was the absence of a "single-point command" to which they could direct their requests for help and reinforcements.
The chief secretary, additional chief secretary (home), and a clutch of other bureaucrats made desperate phone calls to top government bosses in Delhi asking for help and intervention.
The so-called crisis management committee (CMC) in Delhi, headed by cabinet secretary KM Chandrasekhar, met only after midnight, that too when National Security Adviser MK Narayanan finally arrived at Race Course Road - the prime minister's official residence - from a dinner party.
The members of the CMC monitored developments from home, watching television and talking on their cell phones. Narayanan was in similar mode at the dinner party he was attending. He left only at 11:15pm, when prime minister Manmohan Singh summoned him and members of the CMC for an emergency meeting.
Though a decision to send the NSG was taken early, the deployment of the commandos was delayed because the transport carrier, an ancient Russian-made Il-76, had to be fetched from Chandigarh. The commandos were ferried in rickety buses from Manesar in Haryana, where they were stationed. They boarded the plane to Mumbai at around 2am.
The NSG's journey took three hours because the Il-76 is a slow plane. From Mumbai airport, they were transported again in BEST buses without pilot cars to clear the roads. By the time they took up positions outside the hotels, dawn was breaking and the terrorists had done their worst.
'We want it in writing'
The Western Naval Command refused to deploy marine commandos without a written request. It rejected the Mumbai police commissioner's letter, saying that no one less than the chief secretary would do. Under government rules, even a district magistrate can requisition help from the defence forces. The Mumbai police commissioner is much higher in rank
Commandos declined to go in
In the end, the Maharashtra chief secretary had to prepare a letter and fax it to the navy. The marine commandos finally reached the hotels some two hours after the terrorists seized them. But they refused to go inside on the plea that they were not trained for such operations. They stayed outside, firing intermittently at the hotels while the terrorists moved around freely inside, killing at will.
Now another article from BBC
Security experts have criticised the response to the attacks, which left nearly 200 people dead, as "amateurish, sluggish and feeble".
Indian intelligence agencies are leaking information that they gave about half a dozen warnings to the government in Maharashtra state - of which Mumbai is the capital.
The reports say Maharashtra was warned that strikes were being planned on city landmarks, including, possibly, the Taj Mahal hotel at the historic Gateway of India.
Authorities in Mumbai flatly deny that they received any tip-offs. "It is unimaginable that we would have got this sensitive information and not react," says state Interior Secretary Chitkala Zutshi.

The police in India are working on manpower and equipment assessments last made in the 1970s
Yet the local police and intelligence agencies appeared to have failed to act on any of the information - despite doubts as to whether the information was shared promptly enough between the Mumbai authorities.
This is a story which keeps repeating itself in a country which has been hit by over half a dozen big "terror attacks" this year - the central and local security authorities trade charges over the sharing and quality of intelligence, followed by knee-jerk responses and investigations which fizzle out in a couple of years.
The attacks and their aftermath again point to the rot that has set into the country's internal security system and a lack of cohesion between civilian and security wings of the government.
One telling example: six days after the attack, even the number of dead and injured keeps going up and down, due to poor co-ordination between the police and hospitals.
More seriously, the Indian police appear to be incapacitated by a lack of money and training. Poor working conditions, rudimentary surveillance and communications equipment, inadequate forensic science laboratories and outdated weaponry are making matters worse.
"The Mumbai attacks prove that the whole system is falling apart. The police in India are working on manpower and equipment assessments last made in the 1970s," says security analyst Praveen Swami.
The fact that the gunmen came by sea - and sneaked into the city through a crowded fishing colony - points to almost non-existent coastal police patrols, as a local officer admits.
All that the police have is a couple of launches. They have no radar.
The Mumbai police - like most police in India - remain in a time warp: they are equipped with World War II vintage rifles and carbines handed down by the army. In most states, an average policeman's salary and status is equivalent to that of an unskilled municipal worker, encouraging corruption.
Budgets do not extend to supplying food to police personnel on shift, so many end up extorting food from street hawkers. They also routinely hitch free rides because they don't have enough vehicles. Training and faster response times are urgently needed, critics say
Bullet proof vests are of inferior quality and phone interception equipment remains largely rudimentary.
And three years after the central government announced the setting up an ambitious National Police Mission to set out the future needs and requirements of the force, nothing has happened.
India's commando forces are also not exactly in good shape.
A group of the elite 7,400-strong National Security Guards (NSG) - who were flown in to Mumbai eight hours after the attacks - is based near the capital, Delhi. Many of the commandos, say experts, are wasted in giving protection to politicians and other VIPs.
The country's best commando force does not have its own aircraft. As a result, it has become used to spending hours reaching crisis locations, with mixed results.
"On average, the commando force has taken six to seven hours to reach and begin their operations and get their act together every time they have been called for. There have been delays," says Praveen Swami.
He says the commandos have been trained to rescue small groups of people. "They have not been trained on multiple location operations of such scale."
Any deficiencies in their training may be explained by the fact that a Mumbai-type attack only happens very rarely.
That is why Indian security experts like Ajai Sahni say that the response to the attacks was so poor.
After the Mumbai attacks, the local government announced it would set up a state commando force: to begin with, some 500 armed men would be ready in four months.
This, when the basic training for the NSG commandos takes six months. And Maharashtra, along with other states, has no commando training centres.
A number of states where there have been attacks by Maoist rebels plan to raise their own commando forces, but early results point to hasty, faulty planning.
The authorities in eastern Orissa state, for example, hired 8,000 new policemen for anti-Maoist operations, but found to their dismay that it took six months to train just 350 of them.
There are allegations that many of the candidates paid bribes to get into the force.
India is seen as a 'soft' target
Painfully slow and lazy bureaucracy means that the modernisation of the security forces often takes ages. Police in Uttar Pradesh state took four years to buy imported surveillance equipment.
By the time it arrived, it had become outdated and now lies disused. One police official even paid by his own credit card to pick up a piece of $60 equipment from a foreign website for his forces because it would have taken him months, if not years, to acquire it.
With their bureaucratic ways of working, the intelligence agencies are also struggling.
There is a dearth of language specialists. India's spy agency, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), is reported by insiders to have only two Arabic and two Chinese language specialists, hired from language schools.
But the best do not stay on because of poor wages, and one of the Chinese language specialists who was trained in cyber-technology quit to join one of India's top industrial groups.
"Things have to begin from scratch to boost internal security in India. Authorities should come clean to the people and tell them how bad the situation is and set time-bound targets to begin improving security infrastructure," says Praveen Swami.
Otherwise, he warns, India will continue to be one of the softest targets for terror strikes in the world.
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