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I dont think we are losing as a team sport, yes we are losing on the hockey front, but that is due to our organization failure to adapt to the Astro-turf and the regional selection processes
 
Cricket I think we are doing relatively well as compared to any other time, just we have to deal with perhaps the best dynasties of cricket at the time in Australia, but we have been playing catch-up with them
 
Another team sport the doubles in Tennis has been our forte, Bhupati/Paes and Krishan/Amritraj's before that have been shining examples.
 
Football/Basketball we have never been good at and it takes time and effort to build those programs and we dont have that time, patience and financial resources to do that.
 
I think we should stop looking for faults and follow the chinese examples
 
concentrate on sports where other nations dont really spend money or effort and go get those easy pickenings. Build our sports programmes and get outselves on a roll after that
 
I think 2007-2008 has been a great year for us till date as compared to any in the past whether it be team or individual sports, we should build on the success rather than over-analyzing what we are missing
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Gauri,
I think that Athletics is not a good paying sport, and most of Olympics is about Athletics and Track and Field.
Vs. a heavyweight boxer/basketball/football/baseball/tennis/Golf, okay, okay Cricket star how much does a gymnast, a swimmer or any individual make? A cyclist or swimmer, wrestler, boxer or shooter may get fame once an year, and the monetory compensation is not much.
 
I think for India the solution you have said it well. Develop a team in every discipline an send them to competitions like the succesful nations do. Example develop 4 female tennis players and send them to competitions around the world.
 
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I think India is the only country where cricket is over rated.

Look at not just the fame but endorsements and monetary compensation these people got - Lance Armstrong, Michael Phelps, Nastya Luikin, Kerri Walsh and Misty May. Look at the fame Mia Hamm and Brandi Chastian got in a country that does not even care for soccer.

I think India's lack of success in sports whether individual or team attributes to
- Lack of infrastructure
- Lack of training
- Not adapting to the speed and change of the sports

We are gaining grounds in individual sports because it is easy to invest in and train one person, but difficult for a team. Sports like boxing and wrestling do not need expensive equipment or grounds. Sports like hockey need quality equipment and playing conditions.

I also thinks when it comes to teams India is torn between respect for seniors and tradition, versus youth and modernization. We face the same dilemma in cricket as in other sports. In a more individual game like tennis a faster stronger player immediately weeds out the older slower ones no questions asked. How do you weed out the weeds in a team without raising a ruckus?
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Originally posted by return_to_hades

I think India is the only country where cricket is over rated.

Look at not just the fame but endorsements and monetary compensation these people got - Lance Armstrong, Michael Phelps, Nastya Luikin, Kerri Walsh and Misty May. Look at the fame Mia Hamm and Brandi Chastian got in a country that does not even care for soccer.

I think India's lack of success in sports whether individual or team attributes to
- Lack of infrastructure
- Lack of training
- Not adapting to the speed and change of the sports


We are gaining grounds in individual sports because it is easy to invest in and train one person, but difficult for a team. Sports like boxing and wrestling do not need expensive equipment or grounds. Sports like hockey need quality equipment and playing conditions.

I also thinks when it comes to teams India is torn between respect for seniors and tradition, versus youth and modernization. We face the same dilemma in cricket as in other sports. In a more individual game like tennis a faster stronger player immediately weeds out the older slower ones no questions asked. How do you weed out the weeds in a team without raising a ruckus?
@bold black - great point RTH!
 
Re:topic
 
So if we had bagged a gold in football would it assert we exhale in team events and why are we failing at individual level? It's a overall failure (bas 3 medals, a success) in olympics irrespective individual or team events.. I agree with RTH@ red bold, fpossible reasons for failure.

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